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Are You Getting Skewed Here?  

redrockrascal 65M
8395 posts
1/3/2018 5:21 pm
Are You Getting Skewed Here?



I was just doing some reading for a post I have in mind regarding dating sites. YES, theses siteS ( yup, there are more than just the one here ) you are reading this on are dating sites - with an emphasis on sex.

As I was reading I came across the following statement regarding attractiveness


There is some evidence that there may be differences in how women online rate male attractiveness as opposed to how men rate female attractiveness. The distribution of ratings given by men of female attractiveness appears to be the normal distribution, while ratings of men given by women is highly skewed, with 80% of men rated as below average. This shows that women are genuinely more picky than men when it comes to appearance on online dating websites.

So the question is . . . wadda y'all think?


When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
2/10/2018 5:59 pm

    Quoting BooneDavis:
    Well there's so many more women than men so they can afford to be pickier. Not sure if it's that they actually would be were the ratio the same
Good point would love to test out that situation

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
2/10/2018 5:58 pm

thanks

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
2/10/2018 5:57 pm

    Quoting gensan50:
    It depends on your geographical location too. I look in the places that have the kind of women I like. That are friendly, not full of them selves, and worried about how there hair looks . I'm not gonna tell you where to look, but there is a reason why don't live is a city
Agreed geography plays a significant role in online dating.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


BooneDavis 43M
54 posts
1/31/2018 5:25 am

Well there's so many more women than men so they can afford to be pickier. Not sure if it's that they actually would be were the ratio the same

Midnight


partner1240 41M
10 posts
1/27/2018 9:27 am

really awesome blog


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/21/2018 8:48 am

    Quoting Fish2hunt:
    The woman on here most are rude and fakes
Thank you. As long as a lot of guys concentrate their thoughts on all the women being (fake, bots, etc.) it leaves all the real women here available for the rest of us guys. This brings the male to female ratio (about 20 to 1) down to about 10 to 1.

Also, you failed to address the question. Make me think you're fake.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/21/2018 8:46 am

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    In my experience men are far more discerning when it comes to visual appearance in online interaction. For example, a young lad I know says he has been ruined by the swipe left or right site, he will only swipe right if the girl's photo portrays an absolute stunner,and if he goes on to meet the girl, if she's as stunning in real life.

    In my own case, I focus on the personality first, if the girl comes across as intelligent and articulate first then I might seek to engage with her. Ithink I'm picky in that way. Most of the ladies I interact with seem to be similarly discerning???
Hey McKilty sorry for the late response, I didn't see that there was another response. For me it is both, I need to be physically and intellectually attracted to be able to spend any time with a woman. Dumb and ugly aren't much fun.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


lindoboy100 61M
23969 posts
1/13/2018 3:17 am

In my experience men are far more discerning when it comes to visual appearance in online interaction. For example, a young lad I know says he has been ruined by the swipe left or right site, he will only swipe right if the girl's photo portrays an absolute stunner,and if he goes on to meet the girl, if she's as stunning in real life.

In my own case, I focus on the personality first, if the girl comes across as intelligent and articulate first then I might seek to engage with her. Ithink I'm picky in that way. Most of the ladies I interact with seem to be similarly discerning???


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/9/2018 1:06 pm

    Quoting  :

Its possible guys face pics are as poorly done as their dick pic

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


s2ndegree 65M
9800 posts
1/8/2018 6:29 pm

And their tiny little mustache.
Frank Zappa!

Using more than all the road!


s2ndegree 65M
9800 posts
1/8/2018 6:04 pm

It goes really without saying just reading profiles here is
enough of an answer.You'd think if women were that scared of what a man might say or do because they didn't answer a message which is a pretty good indicator someone is dreadful.They would be going after what they want and sending a bunch of their own messages.I know it is another double standard that they would rather give than receive.What is sexual freedom if you're not
going after what you want rather than waiting for the 90% of us out their
that make them so sick to look at sending you messages.

Using more than all the road!


bigblackman21221 53M
4080 posts
1/8/2018 4:55 pm

AMEN Brother!

AMEN!!!!!


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/7/2018 6:21 pm

Can I get an AMEN ! ? ! ?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/7/2018 6:20 pm

Hummm?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/7/2018 6:19 pm

    Quoting  :

Always stay up L J

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


bigblackman21221 53M
4080 posts
1/7/2018 3:42 pm

    Quoting redrockrascal:
    The only problem with the ration that I see is there are a lot on men pissing or chasing off women when they don't know how to interact with them.
Preach Brother!

It never fails.


nizah23 40F
9 posts
1/7/2018 9:27 am

Hmm


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:56 pm

    Quoting  :

That's a good point. Different people are here for different reasons. Trying to lump all (men or women) into one category is pointless.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:53 pm

    Quoting citizen4722:
    It's a well known fact that women prefer our brains to be in our heads rather than in our dicks. I'm fine with that.
Yeah C, I'm good with that too

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:52 pm

    Quoting bigblackman21221:
    I think that women in general don't rate men at all unless specifically asked to.

    I think women are pickier than men when the circumstances dictate that they can be.

    If I send out five emails I get at least five responses.

    I always feel that the ratio of men to women on this site is overblown.
    From my perspective it's not an issue.
The only problem with the ration that I see is there are a lot on men pissing or chasing off women when they don't know how to interact with them.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:50 pm

Not that I recall, who sang it?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:49 pm

    Quoting TicklePlease:
    To paraphrase Lala: A man must have social skills to be attractive to most women. These specifically include an ability to converse.

    Right here is where online attractiveness falls apart for me. A man sitting in front of a woman, HAS to talk, HAS to be engaging because he can SEE by her reactions (real time) how his engagement is progressing. He becomes more attractive to her by reading her cues and responding accordingly, basically including her. Ideally that is. An online conversation is almost NEVER (for me) inclusive of MY interests in conversation. A man's initial attractiveness in his picture tanks when he engages in virtual conversation that's oversexual, even after being informed that that's not appropriate. What's worse are the convos in which all I say is "cool" because it's really a monologue.

    I'd be curious if that Business Insider article had examples of the 18 emails that men send women to get a response. Were they thought-out and reflected that he'd read her profile? Were they individualized? Did they include a picture? Were they less than 5 words? Were they just chest-beating look-at-me-me-me-me-me ones? That kind of stuff makes a difference too.
An online conversation is almost NEVER (for me) inclusive of MY interests in conversation.
Then those you mention have no "game" as it were and perhaps not much between their . . . ears.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:46 pm

    Quoting  :

Good points and I agree

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:45 pm

    Quoting MyBaffies:
    Yeah, women are definitely picky.

    They never pick me. Unless they are a bot. Or a fake profile. Or in deepest Central Africa.
Its in their DNA

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/6/2018 5:43 pm

    Quoting Tmptrzz:
    I think the attractiveness of males is based on the whole person, personality, hygiene, and the way they look. And I have to say a man with a great sense of humor is a major plus in my book. Too many base things on someone's looks it's not all about that for me..
Agreed, people have many dimensions it is the sum of them that make people attractive or not.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
1/5/2018 8:50 pm

    Quoting citizen4722:
    It's a well known fact that women prefer our brains to be in our heads rather than in our dicks. I'm fine with that.
I think your right

Become a blog watcher sweet_vm


sweet_VM 65F
81699 posts
1/5/2018 8:49 pm

Very interesting findings. It might just be right hugs V

Become a blog watcher sweet_vm


citizen4722 66M  
74582 posts
1/4/2018 4:36 pm

It's a well known fact that women prefer our brains to be in our heads rather than in our dicks. I'm fine with that.


bigblackman21221 53M
4080 posts
1/4/2018 12:46 pm

I think that women in general don't rate men at all unless specifically asked to.

I think women are pickier than men when the circumstances dictate that they can be.

If I send out five emails I get at least five responses.

I always feel that the ratio of men to women on this site is overblown.
From my perspective it's not an issue.


Naughtypursuit 56F  
2766 posts
1/4/2018 6:35 am

    Quoting redrockrascal:
    That makes sense.

    The ration here is about 20 to 1, men to women. I read that on the more traditional sites the ratio seems to be a lot closer about 60/40. But, that can go men to women or women to men. That fits the Christian Mingle numbers. But I wonder what that says about what people think of religious meeting sites. Or what guys might think of "good Christian women".
Ever hear the song Catholic Girls....


TicklePlease 56F  
13851 posts
1/4/2018 5:04 am

To paraphrase Lala: A man must have social skills to be attractive to most women. These specifically include an ability to converse.

Right here is where online attractiveness falls apart for me. A man sitting in front of a woman, HAS to talk, HAS to be engaging because he can SEE by her reactions (real time) how his engagement is progressing. He becomes more attractive to her by reading her cues and responding accordingly, basically including her. Ideally that is. An online conversation is almost NEVER (for me) inclusive of MY interests in conversation. A man's initial attractiveness in his picture tanks when he engages in virtual conversation that's oversexual, even after being informed that that's not appropriate. What's worse are the convos in which all I say is "cool" because it's really a monologue.

I'd be curious if that Business Insider article had examples of the 18 emails that men send women to get a response. Were they thought-out and reflected that he'd read her profile? Were they individualized? Did they include a picture? Were they less than 5 words? Were they just chest-beating look-at-me-me-me-me-me ones? That kind of stuff makes a difference too.


MyBaffies 54M
4983 posts
1/4/2018 2:25 am

Yeah, women are definitely picky.

They never pick me. Unless they are a bot. Or a fake profile. Or in deepest Central Africa.

Baffies

Link to my blog: MyBaffies


maxpowergetit 47M
31 posts
1/3/2018 10:14 pm

When a woman implies is less threatening to a male using a dating site or as she says, "but meeting and attracting women online can provide a less "intimidating", or less "cold" environment." How would she know that? I am not trying to stir the pot but as a male I have found it way easier to meet women in public than on a dating site. When I chat with a woman on these sites the questions I get asked frequently are: send me a pic? how large is your cock? and how tall are you?
Now I have been thinking and it seems like not only has dating and female judgement become offensive but how is it different from any other prejudice. I have a 6 inch long 5 inch circumference cock and have had lots and lots of great sex but I don't think I am photogenic so meeting in person is always better than my pics.


Tmptrzz 61F  
107039 posts
1/3/2018 8:15 pm

I think the attractiveness of males is based on the whole person, personality, hygiene, and the way they look. And I have to say a man with a great sense of humor is a major plus in my book. Too many base things on someone's looks it's not all about that for me..

Seduce the mind and see what a wonderful adventure the body will take you on..


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 7:48 pm

    Quoting Naughtypursuit:
    Did some research myself....found this on Business Insider.....

    An average man who sends 18 messages to women his own age can be 50% certain he'll receive at least one response. For women, they need to send only 5 messages to be 50% certain they'll get a response. If men must spam women with messages in order to elicit a response, then women will be more selective when responding to the surplus in general. Since women are understandably disinclined to respond to all the messages, men must send out more in order to guarantee any response. It's cyclic.
    Everyone is acting in their own self interest, inadvertently leading to further imbalances in the system.
    It's one of the fundamental issues with online dating in general.
    _______________________________

    Also saw where the site with the highest rate of women (58 is Christian Mingle.....
That makes sense.

The ration here is about 20 to 1, men to women. I read that on the more traditional sites the ratio seems to be a lot closer about 60/40. But, that can go men to women or women to men. That fits the Christian Mingle numbers. But I wonder what that says about what people think of religious meeting sites. Or what guys might think of "good Christian women".

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 7:45 pm

And there is probably a lot more to be understand.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 7:44 pm

    Quoting  :

It is off of Wikipedia, so no idea who. Sort of poorly written but I believe "normal distribution" means expected results. It seems the author of the article is strictly speaking in statistical language, by saying normal distribution. I believe so.

Skewed refers to the 80% being different than what may have been expected.

How are they quantifying attractive? no idea.

I agree with Recalcitrant - partly .- but meeting and attracting women online can provide a less "intimidating", or less "cold" environment.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


Naughtypursuit 56F  
2766 posts
1/3/2018 6:56 pm

Did some research myself....found this on Business Insider.....

An average man who sends 18 messages to women his own age can be 50% certain he'll receive at least one response. For women, they need to send only 5 messages to be 50% certain they'll get a response. If men must spam women with messages in order to elicit a response, then women will be more selective when responding to the surplus in general. Since women are understandably disinclined to respond to all the messages, men must send out more in order to guarantee any response. It's cyclic.
Everyone is acting in their own self interest, inadvertently leading to further imbalances in the system.
It's one of the fundamental issues with online dating in general.
_______________________________

Also saw where the site with the highest rate of women (58 is Christian Mingle.....


classicalrebel4 68M
1755 posts
1/3/2018 6:26 pm

It could explain alot.

Please don't let me be misunderstood.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 6:21 pm

    Quoting superbjversion2:
    I'm not surprised by that disparity. Men are very visual ... all a woman needs to be "attractive" is to show a bit of cleavage. That doesn't work in reverse.
Yup I wonder how much the people who look at these things, and the women on the sites, take that into consideration. BTW, I agree with you and your cleavage

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 6:19 pm

    Quoting TB5758:
    My wife is certainly picky! It is to the point where if it were me pursuing her she would tell me to fuck off, lol. Of course she denies it.
Of course she does

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 6:17 pm

    Quoting  :

can you kabob me? I could kabang ya

"bear goggles" meaning beer goggles? or have you seen far-sighted bears?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 6:15 pm

    Quoting lustasaurus:
    Maybe it’s because ladies don’t wanna look at guys’ junk.
Do they post up their junk on the vanilla sites too?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


superbjversion2 68F  
24388 posts
1/3/2018 6:06 pm

I'm not surprised by that disparity. Men are very visual ... all a woman needs to be "attractive" is to show a bit of cleavage. That doesn't work in reverse.

Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation bangs on the door forever!


TB5758 65M/67F  
577 posts
1/3/2018 5:59 pm

My wife is certainly picky! It is to the point where if it were me pursuing her she would tell me to fuck off, lol. Of course she denies it.


lustasaurus 46F
1838 posts
1/3/2018 5:57 pm

Maybe it’s because ladies don’t wanna look at guys’ junk.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 5:50 pm

    Quoting SlamittomeAZ:
    The number one issue with men on dating sites, especially sex sites, is that most men blow any chance they would have had by not reading the profile and sending a message, many times a rude message, anyway. Attractiveness goes down with a less than favorable first impression.
Yes, we read a lot about that here on the blogs. Welcome

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 5:48 pm

Cum on down

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 5:47 pm

    Quoting sphxdiver:
    I really think one has to take into account the ratio of men to women, especially on this site.

    where it's somewhere between 20 to 25 to 1, men to women.

    At least on this site, the women do have the pick of the litter, so to speak.

    Don't really know what the ratio is on others site either, but one would almost have to assume, that it's not much different, numbers wise.
Yes I would agree to a degree. The ration here is about 20 to 1, men to women. I read that on the more traditional sites the ratio seems to be a lot closer about 60/40. But, that can go men to women or women to men.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


curiousguy2005 58M
11 posts
1/3/2018 5:45 pm

Good question!


benard69 66M/66F  

1/3/2018 5:43 pm

Think most people using this site looking to actually meet are Skewed...


SlamittomeAZ 62F

1/3/2018 5:41 pm

The number one issue with men on dating sites, especially sex sites, is that most men blow any chance they would have had by not reading the profile and sending a message, many times a rude message, anyway. Attractiveness goes down with a less than favorable first impression.


pagancountrygirl 66F
6466 posts
1/3/2018 5:39 pm

Can I be skewered instead?

Pagan
Hmmmm....I know I left that wand around here somewhere!


sphxdiver 74M
21063 posts
1/3/2018 5:34 pm

I really think one has to take into account the ratio of men to women, especially on this site.

where it's somewhere between 20 to 25 to 1, men to women.

At least on this site, the women do have the pick of the litter, so to speak.

Don't really know what the ratio is on others site either, but one would almost have to assume, that it's not much different, numbers wise.


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2018 5:22 pm

The more you say it's just a sex site the less you know.

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


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